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		By: Ross		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 03:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed your article.
I too was hesitant initially with the M240 but I must say after having it for a year I have no problems at all now.
The M9 was such a hard camera to beat .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-10082"><p>I enjoyed your article.<br />
I too was hesitant initially with the M240 but I must say after having it for a year I have no problems at all now.<br />
The M9 was such a hard camera to beat .</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-10082" style="display: none;"><textarea>I enjoyed your article.
I too was hesitant initially with the M240 but I must say after having it for a year I have no problems at all now.
The M9 was such a hard camera to beat .</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Niko		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 08:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[agree and thanks for the article.   As a previous owner of the M9 , the new M has far better DR.  As long as you exposure the right way (i. e do not underexpose) images are better than the M9 &#039; ones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-8666"><p>agree and thanks for the article.   As a previous owner of the M9 , the new M has far better DR.  As long as you exposure the right way (i. e do not underexpose) images are better than the M9 &#8216; ones.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-8666" style="display: none;"><textarea>agree and thanks for the article.   As a previous owner of the M9 , the new M has far better DR.  As long as you exposure the right way (i. e do not underexpose) images are better than the M9 ' ones.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Leica M (Typ 240) low light performance &#124; Jip van Kuijk › By TOMEN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leica M (Typ 240) low light performance &#124; Jip van Kuijk › By TOMEN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 14:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] See on jipvankuijk.nl [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-170"><p>[&#8230;] See on jipvankuijk.nl [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Karim D. Ghantous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 08:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was very helpful, so thank you. The new M seems much, much better than the M9 at handling light sources. The M9 (and a lot of DSLRs) rendered light sources very harshly. The new sensor handles them as film would. This is most evident in the shot of the Christmas tree.

Low noise is a good thing, but natural rendering of highlights is just as important. I think the new M could, in theory, replace film.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-160"><p>This was very helpful, so thank you. The new M seems much, much better than the M9 at handling light sources. The M9 (and a lot of DSLRs) rendered light sources very harshly. The new sensor handles them as film would. This is most evident in the shot of the Christmas tree.</p>
<p>Low noise is a good thing, but natural rendering of highlights is just as important. I think the new M could, in theory, replace film.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-160" style="display: none;"><textarea>This was very helpful, so thank you. The new M seems much, much better than the M9 at handling light sources. The M9 (and a lot of DSLRs) rendered light sources very harshly. The new sensor handles them as film would. This is most evident in the shot of the Christmas tree.

Low noise is a good thing, but natural rendering of highlights is just as important. I think the new M could, in theory, replace film.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Leica links from around the Web &#124; Leica News &#38; Rumors		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 21:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] → Leica M in low light [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-159"><p>[&#8230;] → Leica M in low light [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Zoran		</title>
		<link>https://jipvankuijk.nl/leica-m-in-low-light/#comment-137</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2014 19:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My solution is Leica Monochrom! You do not need better one.
And you do not bother about the color.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-137"><p>My solution is Leica Monochrom! You do not need better one.<br />
And you do not bother about the color.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-137" style="display: none;"><textarea>My solution is Leica Monochrom! You do not need better one.
And you do not bother about the color.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: mike phaling		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very nicely laid out article, and tastefully done. I find the color from my M240 perfect.  It has more color depth to my eye, more accurate, and a subtler palette.  Reds are better..The landscapes I am getting are so good I could never go back to the M9p..the look is very refined, as a flemish painting at base iso&#039;s.  The extra resolution is just the right amount for fine 18x27 prints..keep the well done articles coming-we need more like this]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-96"><p>Very nicely laid out article, and tastefully done. I find the color from my M240 perfect.  It has more color depth to my eye, more accurate, and a subtler palette.  Reds are better..The landscapes I am getting are so good I could never go back to the M9p..the look is very refined, as a flemish painting at base iso&#8217;s.  The extra resolution is just the right amount for fine 18&#215;27 prints..keep the well done articles coming-we need more like this</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-96" style="display: none;"><textarea>Very nicely laid out article, and tastefully done. I find the color from my M240 perfect.  It has more color depth to my eye, more accurate, and a subtler palette.  Reds are better..The landscapes I am getting are so good I could never go back to the M9p..the look is very refined, as a flemish painting at base iso's.  The extra resolution is just the right amount for fine 18x27 prints..keep the well done articles coming-we need more like this</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://jipvankuijk.nl/leica-m-in-low-light/#comment-45</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 23:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice little article, well done.  I also find the M image improved over the M9.  The CCD vs CMOS appearance doesn&#039;t seem any different to me in print.   Leica themselves don&#039;t seem to believe there is a difference either:

&quot;Many people think there is a big difference in the touch and feel, and the look and feel of the CCD vs CMOS.  We think a pixel just renders light or transforms light into electricity.  And the look and feel is done in the image processing.  On the other hand, the CMOS sensors have a lot of advantages such as video and live view and we therefore think that the CMOS have the future at Leica.&quot; - Stefen Daniel, February, 2014]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-45"><p>Nice little article, well done.  I also find the M image improved over the M9.  The CCD vs CMOS appearance doesn&#8217;t seem any different to me in print.   Leica themselves don&#8217;t seem to believe there is a difference either:</p>
<p>&#8220;Many people think there is a big difference in the touch and feel, and the look and feel of the CCD vs CMOS.  We think a pixel just renders light or transforms light into electricity.  And the look and feel is done in the image processing.  On the other hand, the CMOS sensors have a lot of advantages such as video and live view and we therefore think that the CMOS have the future at Leica.&#8221; &#8211; Stefen Daniel, February, 2014</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-45" style="display: none;"><textarea>Nice little article, well done.  I also find the M image improved over the M9.  The CCD vs CMOS appearance doesn't seem any different to me in print.   Leica themselves don't seem to believe there is a difference either:

"Many people think there is a big difference in the touch and feel, and the look and feel of the CCD vs CMOS.  We think a pixel just renders light or transforms light into electricity.  And the look and feel is done in the image processing.  On the other hand, the CMOS sensors have a lot of advantages such as video and live view and we therefore think that the CMOS have the future at Leica." - Stefen Daniel, February, 2014</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Douglas Palmer		</title>
		<link>https://jipvankuijk.nl/leica-m-in-low-light/#comment-44</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas Palmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 17:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been using the M Typ240 for about 4 months now and feel comfortable up to ISO5000 for night shots. It&#039;s color is very distinct from my other camera (Nikon D4) and what I have used in the recent past (D700/RX100) -- and not DSLR like at all. Typical ISO5000 shot (35mm Summilux f/1.4  at f/4): 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/diacritical/12379350073/&quot; title=&quot;Brooklyn&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I have found the DR to be fine, not quite what I get with the D4, but more than enough for what I want it to do. I cannot image a better photographic experience that what I&#039;m getting right now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-44"><p>I have been using the M Typ240 for about 4 months now and feel comfortable up to ISO5000 for night shots. It&#8217;s color is very distinct from my other camera (Nikon D4) and what I have used in the recent past (D700/RX100) &#8212; and not DSLR like at all. Typical ISO5000 shot (35mm Summilux f/1.4  at f/4): </p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/diacritical/12379350073/" title="Brooklyn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
<p>I have found the DR to be fine, not quite what I get with the D4, but more than enough for what I want it to do. I cannot image a better photographic experience that what I&#8217;m getting right now.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-44" style="display: none;"><textarea>I have been using the M Typ240 for about 4 months now and feel comfortable up to ISO5000 for night shots. It's color is very distinct from my other camera (Nikon D4) and what I have used in the recent past (D700/RX100) -- and not DSLR like at all. Typical ISO5000 shot (35mm Summilux f/1.4  at f/4): 

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/diacritical/12379350073/" title="Brooklyn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>

I have found the DR to be fine, not quite what I get with the D4, but more than enough for what I want it to do. I cannot image a better photographic experience that what I'm getting right now.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: harold		</title>
		<link>https://jipvankuijk.nl/leica-m-in-low-light/#comment-43</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 07:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog
I don&#039;t understand the colour issues people talk about
I had a M9 and now a M240
I only use raw
The M240 is superior to the M9 in every way. There is a kind of Kodachrome 64 colouring that the M9 has. It is not superior, just different, and less accurate IMHO then the M240.
Best Rgds]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-43"><p>Thanks for the blog<br />
I don&#8217;t understand the colour issues people talk about<br />
I had a M9 and now a M240<br />
I only use raw<br />
The M240 is superior to the M9 in every way. There is a kind of Kodachrome 64 colouring that the M9 has. It is not superior, just different, and less accurate IMHO then the M240.<br />
Best Rgds</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-43" style="display: none;"><textarea>Thanks for the blog
I don't understand the colour issues people talk about
I had a M9 and now a M240
I only use raw
The M240 is superior to the M9 in every way. There is a kind of Kodachrome 64 colouring that the M9 has. It is not superior, just different, and less accurate IMHO then the M240.
Best Rgds</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Gary		</title>
		<link>https://jipvankuijk.nl/leica-m-in-low-light/#comment-30</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2014 00:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess adoption of the M(240) has been one of the most polarizing issues for myself. With the M9, I felt I could get results I wanted very quickly without too much post processing but on the M(240), I find myself needing to spend much more time trying to get pleasing results.

I am possibly at the point of giving up on the M(240) but still think certain color issues may be fixed via a future firmware update.

I am interested to hear of these LR profiles you have custom created for the M(240). Thanks for sharing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-30"><p>I guess adoption of the M(240) has been one of the most polarizing issues for myself. With the M9, I felt I could get results I wanted very quickly without too much post processing but on the M(240), I find myself needing to spend much more time trying to get pleasing results.</p>
<p>I am possibly at the point of giving up on the M(240) but still think certain color issues may be fixed via a future firmware update.</p>
<p>I am interested to hear of these LR profiles you have custom created for the M(240). Thanks for sharing.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-30" style="display: none;"><textarea>I guess adoption of the M(240) has been one of the most polarizing issues for myself. With the M9, I felt I could get results I wanted very quickly without too much post processing but on the M(240), I find myself needing to spend much more time trying to get pleasing results.

I am possibly at the point of giving up on the M(240) but still think certain color issues may be fixed via a future firmware update.

I am interested to hear of these LR profiles you have custom created for the M(240). Thanks for sharing.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Dr. Ulrich Rohde		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very well and thoroughly  written, I am looking forward to your profile thought !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-27"><p>Very well and thoroughly  written, I am looking forward to your profile thought !</p>
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		By: Jip van Kuijk		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jip van Kuijk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey guys, thanks for the replies!

I also had to get used to the M (Typ 240) colour, compared to the M9(-P) but after a while I discovered it wasn&#039;t so much for the camera colour that differed but the dynamic range that is so much larger with the M (Typ 240) making the files look &#039;flatter&#039; straight out of the camera. Yes the M9(-P) files look better straight out of the camera, but they are much less mendable. I can say I can create very pleasing results with the M (Typ 240) especially after I created my own Lightroom profile for the camera. For me the colours are the same as the M9(-P) after I created the custom profile in Lightroom 5. I&#039;ll write a article on this subject later.

Thanks for reading, and leaving your thoughts!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-26"><p>Hey guys, thanks for the replies!</p>
<p>I also had to get used to the M (Typ 240) colour, compared to the M9(-P) but after a while I discovered it wasn&#8217;t so much for the camera colour that differed but the dynamic range that is so much larger with the M (Typ 240) making the files look &#8216;flatter&#8217; straight out of the camera. Yes the M9(-P) files look better straight out of the camera, but they are much less mendable. I can say I can create very pleasing results with the M (Typ 240) especially after I created my own Lightroom profile for the camera. For me the colours are the same as the M9(-P) after I created the custom profile in Lightroom 5. I&#8217;ll write a article on this subject later.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading, and leaving your thoughts!</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-26" style="display: none;"><textarea>Hey guys, thanks for the replies!

I also had to get used to the M (Typ 240) colour, compared to the M9(-P) but after a while I discovered it wasn't so much for the camera colour that differed but the dynamic range that is so much larger with the M (Typ 240) making the files look 'flatter' straight out of the camera. Yes the M9(-P) files look better straight out of the camera, but they are much less mendable. I can say I can create very pleasing results with the M (Typ 240) especially after I created my own Lightroom profile for the camera. For me the colours are the same as the M9(-P) after I created the custom profile in Lightroom 5. I'll write a article on this subject later.

Thanks for reading, and leaving your thoughts!</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: kameraguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 10:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article. As the others, I too actually prefer the output of the M9 better than the M(240). I think the sensor in the M8/9 series had more character (IMHO). The M seems to now produce files very similar to a lot of DSLRs. Not a bad thing, but the look of the CCD files just seemed to have a more filmic look to me. However, I am still considering the M for it&#039;s lens mount flexibility.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-25"><p>Great article. As the others, I too actually prefer the output of the M9 better than the M(240). I think the sensor in the M8/9 series had more character (IMHO). The M seems to now produce files very similar to a lot of DSLRs. Not a bad thing, but the look of the CCD files just seemed to have a more filmic look to me. However, I am still considering the M for it&#8217;s lens mount flexibility.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-25" style="display: none;"><textarea>Great article. As the others, I too actually prefer the output of the M9 better than the M(240). I think the sensor in the M8/9 series had more character (IMHO). The M seems to now produce files very similar to a lot of DSLRs. Not a bad thing, but the look of the CCD files just seemed to have a more filmic look to me. However, I am still considering the M for it's lens mount flexibility.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: ddbg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 21:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I owned the M240 for about 6 months now and I too preferred the M9 output.  I&#039;m thinking of swapping my M240 with an M9-P which i just sold. :(  For low light situation I will go with Sony Alpha 7.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-24"><p>I owned the M240 for about 6 months now and I too preferred the M9 output.  I&#8217;m thinking of swapping my M240 with an M9-P which i just sold. :(  For low light situation I will go with Sony Alpha 7.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-24" style="display: none;"><textarea>I owned the M240 for about 6 months now and I too preferred the M9 output.  I'm thinking of swapping my M240 with an M9-P which i just sold. :(  For low light situation I will go with Sony Alpha 7.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Dez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Personally, I decided I preferred the low-ISO look of the M9 to the M(240), so I kept the M9 and picked up a RX1r for low-light work.
Great photos and great article, keep &#039;em coming!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-23"><p>Personally, I decided I preferred the low-ISO look of the M9 to the M(240), so I kept the M9 and picked up a RX1r for low-light work.<br />
Great photos and great article, keep &#8217;em coming!</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-23" style="display: none;"><textarea>Personally, I decided I preferred the low-ISO look of the M9 to the M(240), so I kept the M9 and picked up a RX1r for low-light work.
Great photos and great article, keep 'em coming!</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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